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#18 EuroStack
Apr 3, 2026 · 00:49:57
In this episode, Toby and Krisztian dive into EuroStack, an industry-led lobby initiative pushing for European digital sovereignty. Krisztian breaks down what EuroStack is, what it proposes, and why it matters now. They cover the scale of Europe's dependency on non-European tech (260 billion euros per year flowing out), what it actually means to be a "European" company, how public procurement could bootstrap a European tech ecosystem, and why trust in US hyperscalers has finally broken. They also explore the companion site euro-stach.com, a directory of 1620+ European alternatives across 64 categories. https://techleaguepodcast.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/techleague-podcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/techleaguepodcast/ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-league/id1852602975 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1zx8UIe2EjawuVU3I31fdP Chapters 0:00 Introduction 1:30 What is EuroStack and why Krisztian is excited about it 4:00 The scale of the problem: 260 billion euros/year leaving Europe 7:00 Europe as a fragmented market vs the US and China 10:00 The three pillars: Buy European, Sell European, Fund European 13:00 How public procurement can generate demand and bootstrap growth 17:00 The 1-to-10 ratio: every public euro attracting 10 private 20:00 Risk of government focus pulling cloud providers away from innovation 24:00 Startup acquisition culture: why European exits go to US companies 28:00 Defining "European": jurisdiction, control, supply chain, no extra-EU restrictions 33:00 AWS sovereign cloud: smoke and mirrors 37:00 Timeline to 2030 and the gradual transition approach 40:00 Geopolitical risk: Ukraine, Starlink, and the dependency reality 44:00 European openness vs American/Chinese protectionism 48:00 Why trust in US tech has finally broken 52:00 Opportunities for European engineers and companies 55:00 Wrap-up Technologies and Initiatives Mentioned EuroStack initiative: https://eurostack.eu/ Solution directory: https://euro-stack.com Scaleway - https://www.scaleway.com OVH Cloud - https://www.ovhcloud.com
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Can grassroots campaigns really change digital infrastructure policies?
Why can’t cities break free from Big Tech dominance?
Can the European tech industry finally catch up? 🇪🇺
Will government cloud contracts actually kill tech innovation?
Why choosing European tech could secure our economy.
Is the US Cloud Act a ticking time bomb for European tech independence?
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